Comments on: Life After Death http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:06:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Thozman http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7733 Thozman Wed, 07 May 2008 10:03:38 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7733 The only evidence I can provide would be in the form of anecdotes, i.e. personal experience. Everyone has "rules" or "beliefs they live by. Each belief takes faith. Even atheism has to be based on the faith that God doesn't exist. Science will never be able to prove anything spiritual to anyone because spirituality is not physical or material. Simply, the evidence you're searching for is unattainable without faith, or belief in verification without the use of science. I could tell you of the times I've had face to face communication with non-earthly entities, but it wouldn't do any good. I don't expect anyone to blindly believe me, just keep searching and maybe someday you'll have an experience(s) that will convince you as well. As for me, I wouldn't believe in any evidence without proof that the evidence was valid. It's a catch 22. Cheers! The only evidence I can provide would be in the form of anecdotes, i.e. personal experience.

Everyone has “rules” or “beliefs they live by. Each belief takes faith.
Even atheism has to be based on the faith that God doesn’t exist.
Science will never be able to prove anything spiritual to anyone because spirituality is not physical or material.

Simply, the evidence you’re searching for is unattainable without faith, or belief in verification without the use of science.

I could tell you of the times I’ve had face to face communication with non-earthly entities, but it wouldn’t do any good.
I don’t expect anyone to blindly believe me, just keep searching and maybe someday you’ll have an experience(s) that will convince you as well.

As for me, I wouldn’t believe in any evidence without proof that the evidence was valid.
It’s a catch 22.
Cheers!

]]> By: moody http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7732 moody Tue, 06 May 2008 22:05:50 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7732 You're talking about these things like you're certain, but you cannot provide any credible evidence for it. It all comes down to belief. Which is believing in something with no evidence and that's something i don't do. Sorry. To convince me, or at least get me interested, you're gonna need to provide at least some evidence. Not a proof, but some evidence. without it, I don't buy anything. You’re talking about these things like you’re certain, but you cannot provide any credible evidence for it. It all comes down to belief. Which is believing in something with no evidence and that’s something i don’t do. Sorry.
To convince me, or at least get me interested, you’re gonna need to provide at least some evidence. Not a proof, but some evidence. without it, I don’t buy anything.

]]> By: Thozman http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7731 Thozman Tue, 06 May 2008 21:53:02 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7731 I don't believe in ghost's, only angelic and demonic activity. When you die, you're in a state of non-being that is timeless. There is an afterlife, but the fact is we all arrive there at the same moment. Everyone who has ever been born and dies, (all of us), arrive at the same instant. So the afterlife won't exist, "until" we all die, and awake at the same instant. Until then, time will continue to pass slowly for those missing deceased loved one's as if they've been gone a long, long time, when actually the dead see it as only being gone an instant until awakening, much like receiving an anethstesia before surgery. Once you lose consciousness after an anethstesia, it seems you awake an instant later in recovery, while in reality it may have been many hours. The only entities that exist outside our plane of physical existance, throughout the time of our birth, death, non-being, and awakening, are either angelic or demonic......no ghosts. I don’t believe in ghost’s, only angelic and demonic activity.
When you die, you’re in a state of non-being that is timeless.
There is an afterlife, but the fact is we all arrive there at the same moment.
Everyone who has ever been born and dies, (all of us), arrive at the same instant.
So the afterlife won’t exist, “until” we all die, and awake at the same instant.
Until then, time will continue to pass slowly for those missing deceased loved one’s as if they’ve been gone a long, long time, when actually the dead see it as only being gone an instant until awakening, much like receiving an anethstesia before surgery.
Once you lose consciousness after an anethstesia, it seems you awake an instant later in recovery, while in reality it may have been many hours.

The only entities that exist outside our plane of physical existance, throughout the time of our birth, death, non-being, and awakening, are either angelic or demonic……no ghosts.

]]> By: moody http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7242 moody Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:32:02 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7242 "Only you can discern what feels right to you based on your own research and experience." That's the whole problem. Even is something seems so real to YOU it does not mean it's real. Your brain is best 3D software imaginable. Brain could deceive, eyes could deceive you. That's why you need controlled experiment and scientific method to determine what's real and what is not. You need independent tests showing same results under controlled conditions. There is no way for individual to determine what's real and what is not. For example: schizophrenics hear voices and see things that seems so real TO THEM, but it does not make it real. People on drugs are experiencing similar things. There's simply no other way we know but the scientific method to show what's real. Everything else is speculation and it could be real dangerous. Just look at all schizophrenics-maniac serial killers. They did hear voices and saw things that were so real to them. The only way to convince me to what you saying is to do controlled independent scientific experiment multiple times, and experiment has to show same results each time. Just reading things will not convince me and should not convince you either. Especially reading on internet. Sorry. “Only you can discern what feels right to you based on your own research and experience.”

That’s the whole problem. Even is something seems so real to YOU it does not mean it’s real. Your brain is best 3D software imaginable. Brain could deceive, eyes could deceive you. That’s why you need controlled experiment and scientific method to determine what’s real and what is not. You need independent tests showing same results under controlled conditions. There is no way for individual to determine what’s real and what is not. For example: schizophrenics hear voices and see things that seems so real TO THEM, but it does not make it real. People on drugs are experiencing similar things. There’s simply no other way we know but the scientific method to show what’s real. Everything else is speculation and it could be real dangerous. Just look at all schizophrenics-maniac serial killers. They did hear voices and saw things that were so real to them.
The only way to convince me to what you saying is to do controlled independent scientific experiment multiple times, and experiment has to show same results each time.
Just reading things will not convince me and should not convince you either. Especially reading on internet. Sorry.

]]> By: altamash http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7230 altamash Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:58:27 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7230 Have a look at this website to learn more about stages of sleep: http://www.dreamviews.com/sleepstages.php With that said, it proves that 'something' does happen during sleep. Now that the body changes its frequency just like how a radio works. If you tune in to another channel or frequency, the previous radio station does not cease to exists, instead its on a different frequency and all you have to do is turn the dial to tune in back to the old radio station. Futhermore not much can be explained because its an area that can only be understood by the individual itself. Most i can suggest is research astral projection: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection Some say its 'all in the mind' and nothing but a figment of your imagination. Only you can discern what feels right to you based on your own research and experience. Have a look at this website to learn more about stages of sleep:

http://www.dreamviews.com/sleepstages.php

With that said, it proves that ’something’ does happen during sleep. Now that the body changes its frequency just like how a radio works. If you tune in to another channel or frequency, the previous radio station does not cease to exists, instead its on a different frequency and all you have to do is turn the dial to tune in back to the old radio station.

Futhermore not much can be explained because its an area that can only be understood by the individual itself. Most i can suggest is research astral projection:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection

Some say its ‘all in the mind’ and nothing but a figment of your imagination. Only you can discern what feels right to you based on your own research and experience.

]]> By: moody http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7209 moody Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:51:47 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7209 Drugs would probably be the last thing to use to prove anything let alone something complex as a consciousness. We simply don't know much about it and I'll wait and do research until we do. We actually know a lot about sleep now. Nothing supernatural happens when you sleep as far as we can tell. Again you'll have to provide some evidence for what you;re claiming and I don't see any so far. Just speculations. By the way: like your site :) Drugs would probably be the last thing to use to prove anything let alone something complex as a consciousness. We simply don’t know much about it and I’ll wait and do research until we do.

We actually know a lot about sleep now. Nothing supernatural happens when you sleep as far as we can tell. Again you’ll have to provide some evidence for what you;re claiming and I don’t see any so far. Just speculations.

By the way: like your site :)

]]> By: altamash http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7208 altamash Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:48:02 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/27/life-after-death/#comment-7208 A simple way to prove yourself that conciousness exists outside the brain, is by doing psychedelic drugs, if you're hardcore enough go for salvia divinorum, ayahuasca and DMT. Some artificial ones like LSD and Ketamine also work but i wont reccomend them as they're a big drainer and usually natural stuff is way better. Mushroom trip doesnt count, those are just visual hallucinations, to really let your conciousness leave our vibration that we occupy try the above mentioned items. But hey, 'fear of the unknown' lol i'll give you a A+ if you actually try and report a trip. Btw you leave earth everyday when you sleep, every wondered 'how you go to sleep' ? Its like you hit the sack, think about things, and then before you know it, your alseep and dreaming and wake up next morning, those how have stayed 'awake' while going to sleep, experience lucid dreaming and such. A simple way to prove yourself that conciousness exists outside the brain, is by doing psychedelic drugs, if you’re hardcore enough go for salvia divinorum, ayahuasca and DMT. Some artificial ones like LSD and Ketamine also work but i wont reccomend them as they’re a big drainer and usually natural stuff is way better.

Mushroom trip doesnt count, those are just visual hallucinations, to really let your conciousness leave our vibration that we occupy try the above mentioned items.

But hey, ‘fear of the unknown’ lol i’ll give you a A+ if you actually try and report a trip.

Btw you leave earth everyday when you sleep, every wondered ‘how you go to sleep’ ? Its like you hit the sack, think about things, and then before you know it, your alseep and dreaming and wake up next morning, those how have stayed ‘awake’ while going to sleep, experience lucid dreaming and such.

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