Comments on: Free Will Arguments http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:37:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: xcwillix http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-7054 xcwillix Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:23:15 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-7054 Without human conciousness, can anyone truly be help accountable for there actions. In many ways conciousness is analogous to freewill -- Without human conciousness, can anyone truly be help accountable for there actions. In many ways conciousness is analogous to freewill –

]]> By: moody http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6966 moody Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:34:01 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6966 "What if the creator of the universe is just a child of some alien species that got bored? From time to time he pulls pranks on us to amuse himself, like polka, Jar Jar Binks, and teletubbies." That would actually make more sense. “What if the creator of the universe is just a child of some alien species that got bored? From time to time he pulls pranks on us to amuse himself, like polka, Jar Jar Binks, and teletubbies.”

That would actually make more sense.

]]> By: El Gribbo http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6965 El Gribbo Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:29:19 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6965 What if the creator of the universe is just a child of some alien species that got bored? From time to time he pulls pranks on us to amuse himself, like polka, Jar Jar Binks, and teletubbies. What if the creator of the universe is just a child of some alien species that got bored? From time to time he pulls pranks on us to amuse himself, like polka, Jar Jar Binks, and teletubbies.

]]> By: moody http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6956 moody Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:29:49 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6956 You state, “God DID create universe with bad hitler in mind” How is it that you know God’s Will ? I don't even imply that I know God's will. I did not claim that God is all knowing and all powerful. I was trying to prove opposite. Just by claiming that God is omnipotent and omniscient implies by our logic that God knew Hitler would be bad and he created the world anyway. That implies he had bad Hitler in mind while he was creating the universe. I am not saying that's THE only thing he had in mind, but if God is all-knowing He had to KNOW about bad Hitler. It;s simply logic deduction. "Most of your arguments are based on similar “Facts” I never said that my arguments are based on actual facts. This is purely philosophical argument. If this was to be scientific argument, I would be the first one to doubt these "facts" since they seem improbably by any scientific method and by any logic deductions. The only facts are: omniscient all-knowing (possessed of universal or complete knowledge) omnipotent all-powerful (an agency or force of unlimited power) I for know for a fact that these are taken from the dictionary, but everything else is based on speculation and people mind perceptions. Like I said it's just a mind exercise. You cannot seriously ask for facts in discussions like these. You state, “God DID create universe with bad hitler in mind”
How is it that you know God’s Will ?

I don’t even imply that I know God’s will. I did not claim that God is all knowing and all powerful. I was trying to prove opposite. Just by claiming that God is omnipotent and omniscient implies by our logic that God knew Hitler would be bad and he created the world anyway. That implies he had bad Hitler in mind while he was creating the universe. I am not saying that’s THE only thing he had in mind, but if God is all-knowing He had to KNOW about bad Hitler. It;s simply logic deduction.

“Most of your arguments are based on similar “Facts”
I never said that my arguments are based on actual facts. This is purely philosophical argument. If this was to be scientific argument, I would be the first one to doubt these “facts” since they seem improbably by any scientific method and by any logic deductions.
The only facts are:
omniscient all-knowing (possessed of universal or complete knowledge)
omnipotent all-powerful (an agency or force of unlimited power)
I for know for a fact that these are taken from the dictionary, but everything else is based on speculation and people mind perceptions. Like I said it’s just a mind exercise. You cannot seriously ask for facts in discussions like these.

]]> By: xcwillix http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6955 xcwillix Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:03:27 +0000 http://www.crankypot.com/2008/03/11/free-will-arguments/#comment-6955 Before I can comment - I need some clearification ? You state, "God DID create universe with bad hitler in mind" How is it that you know God's Will ? Most of your arguments are based on similar "Facts" How do you substantiate these facts ? Before I can comment - I need some clearification ?

You state, “God DID create universe with bad hitler in mind”

How is it that you know God’s Will ?

Most of your arguments are based on similar “Facts”
How do you substantiate these facts ?

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