Comments on: South Dakota needs to be expelled from the Union http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:01:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: moody http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-127 moody Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:27:07 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-127 aint that what makes my dentures stay put?”. No, plastic clasps keep your dentures stay put. Otherwise your upper dentures would fall victim of gravity. :) Didn't know you had dentures Ash. Could've fool me. aint that what makes my dentures stay put?”.

No, plastic clasps keep your dentures stay put. Otherwise your upper dentures would fall victim of gravity. :)

Didn’t know you had dentures Ash. Could’ve fool me.

]]> By: Ash http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-124 Ash Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:18:07 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-124 "...justice in some far off kingdom of heaven..." you have a childs understanding of christianity. this is the equivalent of me saying "gravity? aint that what makes my dentures stay put?". “…justice in some far off kingdom of heaven…”

you have a childs understanding of christianity. this is the equivalent of me saying “gravity? aint that what makes my dentures stay put?”.

]]> By: The Viscount http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-123 The Viscount Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:36:56 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-123 xcwillix Every political argument is essentially a moral argument. Both sides of the abortion issue make claims to morality: pro-lifers that it is immoral to abort a fetus, pro-choicers that it is immoral for the state to have power over the individual and her body. An argument for life could very easily be made by someone who does not believe in God in the traditional sense. In fact, many of the arguments against religion have been that it promises justice in some far off kingdom of heaven, or at some judgement day, not here and now. If someone believes that abortion is unjust, they might be just as committed to stopping it, whether or not they believe in God. And yes, people can think human life is important without believing in God. In fact, without a God or heaven, the stakes become that much higher, don't they? xcwillix

Every political argument is essentially a moral argument. Both sides of the abortion issue make claims to morality: pro-lifers that it is immoral to abort a fetus, pro-choicers that it is immoral for the state to have power over the individual and her body.

An argument for life could very easily be made by someone who does not believe in God in the traditional sense. In fact, many of the arguments against religion have been that it promises justice in some far off kingdom of heaven, or at some judgement day, not here and now. If someone believes that abortion is unjust, they might be just as committed to stopping it, whether or not they believe in God.

And yes, people can think human life is important without believing in God. In fact, without a God or heaven, the stakes become that much higher, don’t they?

]]> By: xcwillix http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-121 xcwillix Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:02:58 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-121 By religion I guess meant moral base. Most people do base there moral attitudes on there Religion, Faith , or the great big spooky person in the sky.... So maybe I used the Term Religion too generically. But how else would you base an argument on life. By religion I guess meant moral base. Most people do base there moral attitudes on there Religion, Faith , or the great big spooky person in the sky…. So maybe I used the Term Religion too generically. But how else would you base an argument on life.

]]> By: The Viscount http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-118 The Viscount Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:54:13 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-118 I completely disagree, with your last statement. I think the ONLY arguments against abortion that can be taken seriously are those that don't bring up religion. When someone starts their argument off from a religious standpoint, he is already putting himself at a logical disadvantage, because he is basing argument on an untennable position. I completely disagree, with your last statement. I think the ONLY arguments against abortion that can be taken seriously are those that don’t bring up religion. When someone starts their argument off from a religious standpoint, he is already putting himself at a logical disadvantage, because he is basing argument on an untennable position.

]]> By: xcwillix http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-116 xcwillix Sat, 11 Mar 2006 02:01:07 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-116 I guess I need to educate once again... States Rights -- That issue was solved in 1862 - There mere illusions that allow citizens to believe they have some sort of say, infact the only reason we have states, besides obvious economic reasons - Is to provide us feable minded citizenry some sort of historical pride. Too regress - If there is in fact States Rights, I can hardly Believe 'Brown vs. Board of Education , and Roe vs. Wade' have any similarities what so ever. In thereory the federal Government's primary responcibility besides wageing war is to defend it's citizens rights, based on the Constitutions, and The Bill of Rights. As best I can remeber - The main theme of these docs is that All Men are Created Equal.... So... Brown vs. BOE , Good Job Federal Government..... There is also this amendment thing that mentions Freedom of Religion... I think its impossible to argue, for or against abortion with out bringing in your Religious biases, and therefore should be protected, based on Freedom of Religion. I guess I need to educate once again…

States Rights — That issue was solved in 1862 - There mere illusions that allow citizens to believe they have some sort of say, infact the only reason we have states, besides obvious economic reasons - Is to provide us feable minded citizenry some sort of historical pride.

Too regress - If there is in fact States Rights, I can hardly Believe ‘Brown vs. Board of Education , and Roe vs. Wade’ have any similarities what so ever. In thereory the federal Government’s primary responcibility besides wageing war is to defend it’s citizens rights, based on the Constitutions, and The Bill of Rights. As best I can remeber - The main theme of these docs is that All Men are Created Equal…. So… Brown vs. BOE , Good Job Federal Government….. There is also this amendment thing that mentions Freedom of Religion…
I think its impossible to argue, for or against abortion with out bringing in your Religious biases, and therefore should be protected, based on Freedom of Religion.

]]> By: Ash http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-114 Ash Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:58:06 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-114 the professor profits from the students success. you may quote me if you like. the professor profits from the students success. you may quote me if you like.

]]> By: Fyodor http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-110 Fyodor Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:30:39 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-110 Or Nietzsche's On Geneaology of Morals. Or Nietzsche’s On Geneaology of Morals.

]]> By: The Viscount http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-109 The Viscount Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:42:23 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-109 Personally, I would recommend David Hume's "Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion." That might shake up your world view a bit. Personally, I would recommend David Hume’s “Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion.” That might shake up your world view a bit.

]]> By: Ash http://www.crankypot.com/2006/03/07/south-dakota-needs-to-be-expelled-from-the-union/#comment-108 Ash Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:36:41 +0000 http://crankypot.com/?p=19#comment-108 what would you recomend? what would you recomend?

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