Censorship madness

crankyface.jpg The other day I was flipping through channels and they were showing movie Casino on USA Network. I though “hmmm. I already watched it few times but I could watch this movie every day”. Bad mistake. Watching this movie on USA network (or on any other national channels) is like steel shaft being driven through my head.
Why? Censorship!
I’d say good 60% of dialogue was turned into annoying bleeps and changed to a “family friendly” dialogue.

First of all: there is nothing “Family Friendly” about the movie itself.
Second: If I was Martin Scorsese I would not allow USA to do something like that to my movie. Third: Do you really think that saying frick you! Instead of fuck you! Is going to keep your child from becoming physcopatic lunatic?

De Niro’s (brilliant as always) voice was substituted with the voice of some no talent idiot pretty much every time he opened his mouth. I don’t even want to go to Joe Pesci’s character.
Sometimes I think that USA network and other networks are doing this just to see how much they can piss people off.
Censorship is one of the biggest things that makes me cranky, and US media has almost no competition (maybe Middle East has more censorship, but thats debatable)
Maybe me coming from Europe (where they don’t censor anything) has to do something with it but any sane person will know that hiding female boobs and curse words won’t make your child’s life better. On the contrary, if that child hasn’t seen naked female, boob, tasted a beer or heard a curse word by the time he is 16, Look out! That’s potential serial killer right there.

16 Responses to “Censorship madness”

  1. bigbadwolf Says:

    Ha ha. This is funny. I was just reading yahoo’s news and this article was on the main page. It fits perfectly with what you’re saying:
    “NEW YORK – Nobody turns off the microphone on
    Mick Jagger without a fight. Censorship of their songs during the Super Bowl halftime show was “absolutely ridiculous and completely unnecessary,” the Rolling Stones said through a spokeswoman on Tuesday.
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    The NFL, which produced the show seen on ABC Sunday night, silenced Jagger’s microphone during sexually suggestive passages of two of the three songs the band performed before an audience of 90 million television viewers.”

  2. the asylum Says:

    I think that censorship is a sign of a repressed society. That said, expressing oneself primarily with vulgarities is a sign of a less than adequate vocabulary.

  3. moody Says:

    “expressing oneself primarily with vulgarities”
    Some people call that art, or in movies they call it reality. I call it inability to speak, but I don’t need to hear Joe Pesci talking Shakespeare in Casino or Goodfellas. I just need some sense of reality on the TV (and i am not talking about survivor like shows). I don’t need goverment or TV broadcast stations to keep my kids from vulgarities or nudity on TV. Thats my job.
    I got exposed to nudity, vulgarity, violance at very early age and i don’t see my self becoming a fricking physcopath. Not yet anyway :)
    But i do agree with you that censorship is one of the signs of repressed society.

  4. Ash Says:

    I would like to show your baby sister my penis and call her a @#$%#$ I’m an actor and an artist so you can trust me.

    C’mon. Go rent the movie if you want that stuff. And the reality isn’t an argument. I get enough reality in reality I just want people to sing/dance and tell me life is alright on TV.

    I think a society whose entertainment industry panders to the least commond denominator is far more deadly than one that attempts to curtail its vulgarities.

  5. moody Says:

    “I think a society whose entertainment industry panders to the least commond denominator is far more deadly than one that attempts to curtail its vulgarities.”

    You mean same society that still has death penalthy and executes retarded?
    You mean same society that has highest divorce rate in the world?
    You mean same society that has one of the highest crime rates in the world?
    You mean same society that shuts down the lights in the stadium during superball to prevent stadium full of adults to see female nipple (300 feet away)?

    I could go on but, but i not in the mood. (no pun intended)

  6. the asylum Says:

    “I would like to show your baby sister my penis and call her a @#$%#$ I’m an actor and an artist so you can trust me.”

    I didn’t think conservative Christians had penises. My mistake.

  7. moody Says:

    That was funny asylum.
    Well, they do procreate (unfortunatly), but I could be wrong too. Artificial Insemination and stuff.

  8. Fyodor Says:

    Ok, the conservatives in this country need to grow the fuck up. If people like John Aschroft are so frustrated that they get a hard on every time they see a nude statue (and a statue of Justice at that!) maybe they need to have more sex or hmmm, let me think, thinking, thinking….masturbate! God, the world would be such an easier place to live if more adults acted like adults. IF parents don’t want to have their children watch nudity, they could aaaa I don’t know..MAYBE NOT LET THEM WATCH IT! I mean, this country sure talks a lot about personal responsibility but when it comes down to it, they are willing to let the government take care of their children.

    And bravo to moody’s posting about this: this country went through a collective neurosis over Janet Jackson’s breast showing, but yet every news channel in the fucking country showed how we bombed Bagdhad when we invaded them! Every channel showed the battle of Falujja. Local channels frequently show gun shows!

    The conservatives who are afraid of nudity and yet ok with violence have a problem. My advice to them: jerk off! Or get laid!

  9. Ash Says:

    Ha. Personal attacks don’t substantiate your fantasy-land political views.

    I’m waiting for state-mandated-death totals (of retards) from the last year. Please provide a chart or graph that substantiates this claim. I would also like a comparison of state-mandated deaths to taliban-mandated deaths (in afghanistan prior to un occupation).
    And the rest of those wild claims could use a chart of graph too. Like the crime rate, which accounts for speeding tickets and misdemeanors. You probably didn’t know this but a lot of countries don’t have as many drivers as we do. I think a fair comparison on the world stage is in order here, otherwise your statistics are just agenda-paintings.

    The US is a nation of free will. You are free to go rent whatever garbage you like as long as you adhere to public standards of decency.

  10. moody Says:

    “I would also like a comparison of state-mandated deaths to taliban-mandated deaths (in afghanistan prior to un occupation).”

    You’re comparing US with Afganistan now?

    And now back to graphs. You were talking about speeding tickets and misdeminors. I just looked at the assults and murders.
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_ass (assults) USA is number 1 in the world
    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur (mrders) USA is number 6 in the world right below Mexico and South Africa. Two very “civilized” countries.

    My comment above was refereing to “civilized” countries, and You’re comparing it to fricking Afganistan and God knows what.
    Don’t get me wrong, there are probably more good things here then bad but if we don’t talk about about bad things too , then whats the point? I cannot talk about hippies and flowers on this site. Its a crankypot for Christ sake not a flowerpot.

    I think you need to get out more. Maybe see states first, and then we’ll talk about it.

  11. Ash Says:

    Whatsa matta you? Those aren’t even “per capita”. Totally invalid.

    Taliban used capitol punishment like candy. In the US its used sparingly. Don’t pretend that capitol punishment is public hanging or some other horrendoous thing. Very bad people are given a fair trail and sentanced to death for thier deeds because otherwise we house them and take care of thier medical needs for life. I don’t think society should have to shoulder the financial burden of a few bad apples. Do you? If I get drunk tomorrow will you fund my travels to other states? I want to be wise like you so buy me airfare/accomidations to Denver i’ve always wanted to see the rockies :)

  12. theasylum Says:

    “Very bad people are given a fair trail and sentanced to death for thier deeds because otherwise we house them and take care of thier medical needs for life. I don’t think society should have to shoulder the financial burden of a few bad apples.”

    Putting a monetary value on human life? I think Jesus would have freaked on that.

  13. Fyodor Says:

    The Amnesty International Human Rights organization has listed the US several times as disrespectful of human rights due to the death penalty, which has resulted in minors being killed in Texas. And now with the Bush administration’s explicit policy condoning torture, we are on our way to becoming number 1 on the Amnesty’s black list. Yaaay. Hoorah for W.

    And Ash, even after moody pointed out you were comparing US to Taliban, you kept doing it. Why don’t you look at the EU countries, which have much less crime per capita compared to the US, and yet have no death penatly. In all the 25 states of the EU death penalty has been outlawed as inhumane. It also does not deter further crime or this country would have been crime free by now.

    Finally, to your financial argument–that it takes money to house people in prisons for life–this is another misconception. It takes more money to fund death row inmates’ appeals over several decades and to execute them than to have them in prison for the rest of their life. I was talking to a former KY Supreme Court justice about this who pointed out the ridiculousness of this claim.

    But if you want to keep using the Taliban as your standard of decency ash, than the US is not doing so bad.

  14. Ash Says:

    Give me a break with the moonbattery. My comparison, although completely over your simplistic mind, shows that eye-for-an-eye is a common theme amongst humans and the US handles the concept a lot better than most. If you compare “justice” as dolled out by the US compared to other nations the only thing you’ll find is that those other nations have LACKLUSTER accounting.

    Amnesty international can kiss my rear end. Fair trial is alive and well in the US and thier opinion of how to handle an animal is flawed.

    As for costs of housing inmates: are you insane? Do you think prisions are profit-showing institutions? The costs of appeals is not paid for by tax dollars. I’m sure you have supporting data for your claims.

    And lastly, theasylum: what do you know about jesus? Seriously? Can you quote the biblical passage that says peacefull/lawfull citizens should be freely murdered by those willing to carry out such acts?

  15. schnabler Says:

    Ah-HEM

    If you want a good chuckle on the topic of censorship and haven’t seen this yet:

    http://www.break.com/index/kimmel28.html

    Cheers.

  16. moody Says:

    That was funny.
    It is especially sad that we even have to talk about this.
    Message to the public: GROW UP!

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